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Reply to Carbdoctor
Sent September 01, 2006 9:45 p.m. (8 minutes and 39 seconds later)
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Incerted key into ignition, moved to accessory position, moved back to off position, removed key. Incerted key into ignition, moved to accessory positon, moved back to off position, removed key. Incerted key for 3rd time into ignition, moved to accessory position, moved back to off position, removed key. Got out of car, closed door, opened door, alarm went off.
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Reply to Carbdoctor
Sent September 01, 2006 10:03 p.m. (11 minutes and 35 seconds later)
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With horn fuse in, hood shut, doors locked. Unlock door, alarm sounds very loud, alarm light off, insert key turn to on position, alarm sound off (no sound), alarm light is on. Start car, alarm light goes off. Car runs fine. May need 30-06 to ward off neighbors complainig.
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Reply to Carbdoctor
Sent September 01, 2006 10:23 p.m. (5 minutes and 29 seconds later)
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Remote worked just fine before battery post broke. After replacing car battery, remote will not work. Checked battery in remote, ok, but replaced anyway. Remote will not work under any condition with alarm on car.
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Reply to Carbdoctor
Sent September 01, 2006 10:35 p.m. (6 minutes and 15 seconds later)
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Thank you, I will be standingby.
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Answer
September 01, 2006 11:18 p.m. (43 minutes and 38 seconds later)
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You may need to reprogramme the transmitter. Try this out.
Right from the FSM (Factory Service Manual)
To program the RKE module with a new transmitter, use the following instructions:
Have all the transmitters that will be programmed to the Saturn Present, even if only one is new.
1.Put your key in the ignition, and keep it in the OFF position.
2.Locate the DLC. It is fastened to bottom of the left side of trim panel under the steering column.
3.Use a jumper wire to provide a path from the RKE system program circuit (cavity 8) to ground (cavity 4). Use an available Saturn lead kit and splice, to create a jumper wire as shown. Grounding the program circuit causes the horn chirp. Count the number of horn chirps. The number of chirps will correspond to the mode the RKE module is in.
Obtain the desired mode number by referring to the Saturn Security System mode chart.
4.Cycle the ignition key the number of times that correspond to the desired mode, making sure the key ends up in the LOCK position after it is cycled.
The key must be in the LOCK position to program the module.
5.Keeping the program circuit grounded, simultaneously press and hold the LOCK and UNLOCK buttons on the transmitter.
The horn will chirp the number of times corresponding to the mode programmed when the process is completed, may take up to 15 seconds.
If there is no response, repeat this step, making sure both buttons are pressed down firmly.
If there is still no response, check the transmitter battery and battery contacts. If you are only programming the RKE module with one transmitter, proceed to step 7.
6.Still keeping the program circuit grounded, repeat step 5 with the next transmitter. You must not allow more than one minute between programming the transmitters, or the RKE module will exit programming mode and you will have to start over. If you accidentally disconnect the ground wire from the DLC before completing this step, you will have to start over at step 3. If you accidentally disconnect the ground wire from the DLC, after completing this step, only the first transmitter will be matched. If you make a mistake, start over at step 3.
7.Remove the jumper wire.
Test the operation of each transmitter with the Saturn.
Close the decklid or liftgate.
Saturn Security System Mode Chart Number of IGN Cycles (Horn Chirps)
Mode (Active/Passive)
Double Press LOCK button for horn chirp
Content Theft
Immobilization
0
No Change
No Change
No Change
No Change
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Active
Enabled
Enabled
Enabled
2
Active
Enabled
Enabled
Disabled
3
Active
Enabled
Disabled
Disabled
4
Active
Enabled (Single button press for horn chirp Arm 1/Disarm 2)
Enabled
Enabled
5
Passive
Enabled
Enabled
Enabled
6
Passive
Enabled (Single button press for horn chirp Arm 1/Disarm 2)
Enabled
Enabled
7-10*
Not Used
Not Used
Not Used
Not Used
11
Disabled
Disabled
Disabled
Disabled
12-14*
Not Used
Not Used
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__________________ Thank you and I hoped I answered your Question. If I did, Please click the "ACCEPT" Button. Also please leave feedback so that I know that I did my job properly. Thank You Again. CARBDOCTOR
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Reply to Carbdoctor
Sent September 02, 2006 8:13 a.m. (8 hours and 54 minutes later)
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Wow! I will be very patient at using this method! I will let you know how this works one way or the other. I will be on a long ride to Hot Springs with a group and as soon as I get back I will try this. Thank you so much.
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Reply to Carbdoctor
Sent September 03, 2006 8:38 p.m. (1 day and 3 hours later)
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OK here goes..... The DLC on this vehicle is just below the hood release, if that is what a DLC is, this I believe is where a hand held device can be plugged into. It has 16 electrical slots, 8 horizontal above another 8 horizontal slots, none of which are numbered, but the outer parimeter looks to allow a device to be pluged into it in only one direction. Counting from left to right, slot #2 on top has a purple wire attached, slot #4 and #5 each have seperate black wires attached and the bottom row all the way to the right, slot #16 has an orange wire attached. There are only 4 wires attached to this plug in. Using DUMB logic, I placed a jumper wire from #4 to #16 and blew the fuse to the door locks, replaced fuse and all seems fine. I won't attempt another jumper wire until you say so. The only reference material I have ia a Haynes repair manual and it does not show this DLC for this model car and the wiring diagram in the back does not show a DLC either. I have studied your instructions, and mabe a jumper from the purple wire #2 slot to the black wire #4 slot may do the trick, but I won't attempt this unless you believe this is correct. There are no other slots, plug in's, or any other devices attached under the dash on either side of the car.
Please advise
Thank you
Dave
PS... The ride yesterday was well worth a day off to enjoy. Harley's forever!!!
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Answer
September 03, 2006 10:55 p.m. (2 hours and 16 minutes later)
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I'll be with you in a few minutes I want you to perform a remote system check first I'll walk you through it. Did you check the body comp fuse?
Edited by Carbdoctor on September 3 2006 at 11:08pm__________________ Thank you and I hoped I answered your Question. If I did, Please click the "ACCEPT" Button. Also please leave feedback so that I know that I did my job properly. Thank You Again. CARBDOCTOR
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Reply to Carbdoctor
Sent September 03, 2006 11:20 p.m. (25 minutes and 11 seconds later)
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What is a body comp fuse and where is it located? I have checked every fuse I can locate, and all are in good condition. The only one I have found bad was the door lock fuse after I blew the thing and replaced it. Everything seems to be working fine, even the alarm system light on the dash, just the remote will not communicate with the car.
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Reply to Carbdoctor
Sent September 03, 2006 11:34 p.m. (9 minutes and 27 seconds later)
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Door lock switch works fine. We have only one remote and it worked fine before the battery in the car broke and was replaced. There are 4 buttons on the remote "lock" "unlock" panic and trunk, and yes we have tried every button in every possible combimation we know. The owners manual indicates to press any button 3 consecuitive times to auto sync. remote, but this too does not work. What next?
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Answer
September 03, 2006 11:44 p.m. (10 minutes and 11 seconds later)
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You need to try this first. Put key in the run position window down(so not to lock keys in car). Now hold remote less than 4 feet away from car and press the lock and unlock firmly. Does the remote work know? __________________ Thank you and I hoped I answered your Question. If I did, Please click the "ACCEPT" Button. Also please leave feedback so that I know that I did my job properly. Thank You Again. CARBDOCTOR
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Reply to Carbdoctor
Sent September 03, 2006 11:56 p.m. (11 minutes and 46 seconds later)
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Put key in ignition, put in run position, engine not running, put window down, pressed lock and unlock and panic and trunk button on remote seperatly numerous times, no response of any kind. Standing at drivers door while pressing buttons on remote, and moved to various locations around car close 1 to 4 feet from car. Pushed lock and unlock at same time for 15 seconds and released as another attempt, still no response of any kind. New battery in remote, removed and just now tested to be sure, battery new condition, and checked to be sure it is installed in remote correctly, still not response of any kind. Next?
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Reply to Carbdoctor
Sent September 04, 2006 12:14 a.m. (15 minutes and 36 seconds later)
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Located I/P 10a fuse for body and found good but replace with another new fuse anyway, also 20a fuse locks and it too is good. 10a body comp fuse good but replaced with new one also. All fuses found on I/P pannel passenger side of console.
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Answer
September 04, 2006 12:28 a.m. (14 minutes and 8 seconds later)
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To synchronize a transmitter with the BCM, Simultaneously press and hold the LOCK and UNLOCK buttons on the transmitter, for approximately 10 seconds, near the car. The door locks will cycle to confirm synchronization. Remember key in run and window down. __________________ Thank you and I hoped I answered your Question. If I did, Please click the "ACCEPT" Button. Also please leave feedback so that I know that I did my job properly. Thank You Again. CARBDOCTOR
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Reply to Carbdoctor
Sent September 04, 2006 12:46 a.m. (18 minutes and 40 seconds later)
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Key in run position, simultaneously held LOCK and UNLOCK buttons on transmitter for approximately 10 to 15 seconds in many positions around car next to drivers door, passengers door, front of car, back of car with window down and doors closed. No response of any kind.
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Reply to Carbdoctor
Sent September 04, 2006 11:00 a.m. (2 hours and 6 minutes later)
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Do you know what model or type of scan tool I will need to program or check the codes?
The investment into this scanner will more than pay for itself knowing what shops or dealers charge to do this. I have never baucked at purchasing tools to do the job right.
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