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1992 Mazda B2600i Fuel System
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What is the fuel pressure regulator psi specification for a 1992 Mazda B2600i with a 2.6L engine and fuel injection? My Chilton manual specifies 64 to 85 psi. But the regulator in my truck opens at 40 psi., which the Chilton manual says is the pressure for the 1992 Mazda Navajo engine. Is 64 to 85 psi the correct specification for the B2600i; and I have the wrong part in my truck. Or is the specification wrong in the Chilton manual?

 

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1992 Mazda B2600i 2.6L

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Replaced the fuel pump, screen, fuel filter and fuel pressure regulator. All parts were purchased new.

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August 14 11:22 AM (17 minutes and 22 seconds later)
         
Reply to Geordie's Post: I placed a fuel pressure guage inline after the fuel filter. Then I primed the engine following directions in the Chilton manual. The fuel gauge read 40 psi. This is what the guage read before I did the work to replace the fuel pump, screen and fuel pump. The problem is that the truck won't start. It looks like I have a good spark, and the spark plugs are clean with the grey-brown appearance which the manual claims is the way they should look. I tried pulling a spark plug and cranking the engine to see if I could smell gas at the spark plug hole. I could not smell any gas, so I guessed that the engine was not getting gas for some reason. Seeing that the fuel guage reading was only 40 psi, when the Chilton manual said it should be 64 to 85 psi after priming led me to replace all the parts mentioned so far. I did find that I could force up the fuel pressure by placing a hose on the output side of the fuel pressure regulator and crimping the hose so fuel could not pass back to the fuel tank. This allowed the fuel pump to get the pressure up to the Chilton range of 64 to 85 psi. When I did this the engine would start and run roughly for a minute. Then the fuel guage pressure got above 85 psi and the engine quit.
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August 14 12:05 PM (30 minutes and 43 seconds later)
         
Reply to Geordie's Post: No I don't think there is a turbo charged version. There is nothing in my Chilton manual about turbo charging and my truck is a basic quarter ton vehicle with a 4-cylinder engine. The fuel pressure specification does seem high for such a vehicle. But the gas lines and rubber hoses appear heavier duty too.

Edited by Customer (name blocked for privacy) on August 14 2006 at 12:35 PM
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August 14 12:48 PM (42 minutes and 31 seconds later)
         
REPLIEDCheck Mark
I have to say that 64 psi sounds about right. I know some older fuel injection systems use pressure operated injectors and they open at around 60 to 70 psi, but they all have seperate fuel supplies whereas yours is rail fed.

Is there a picture of the Navajo pressure regulator in your Chilton manual? If so could it be mistaken for the one on your truck? Because it sounds to me as though you've been sold the wrong one.

Can I ask what actually happened to warrant your investigation? Did your truck break down?

Geordie

I know that some fuel pressure regulators have a screw right in the middle for adjusting the pressure


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August 14 1:30 PM (42 minutes and 4 seconds later)
         
Reply to Geordie's Post: Yes the book does show a Navajo fuel pressure regulator. I did not look for it before now because I assumed it was the same device but a different operating pressure. The picture of the Navajo fuel presssure regulator in the Chilton manual is a completely different looking device from the picture of the B2600i fuel pressure regulator. So maybe I'm wrong about having the wrong part. You mentioned earlier about the fuel system pressure being raised as the engine revs increased. Would this be to maintain the fuel pressure at the specification of 64 to 85 psi no matter whether the engine is off (ignition key on and fuel system priming) or idling or turning at 2000 rpm. Or does the fuel pressure need to be raised from a primed fuel system pressure of 40 psi when the engine is off and primed, or idling to the higher pressure when the engine is turning at 2000 rpm? The Chilton manual seems to be saying the fuel system pressure should be 64 to 85 psi no matter what the engine is doing.
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August 14 1:54 PM (24 minutes and 17 seconds later)
         
ACCEPTEDCheck Mark
Basically, the more fuel injected, the lesser the rail pressure, and therefore, because fuel demand fluctuates according to engine operating conditions, the fuel pressure regulator needs to raise or lower the pressure accordingly. This is done by reading the inlet depression via a vaccuum connection from the inlet manifold to the pressure regulator.

The LOWER the depression (foot down), the HIGHER the fuel pressure, the HIGHER the depression (foot up) the LOWER the fuel pressure.

If you were to unplug the vaccuum pipe from the inlet manifold, plug the hole at the manifold, suck as hard as you could on the vaccuum pipe until you had created a big vaccuum, and then get someone to start the engine, would it start or attempt to start?

Geordie


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August 14 2:49 PM (54 minutes and 46 seconds later)
         
Reply to Geordie's Post: "If you were to unplug the vaccuum pipe from the inlet manifold, plug the hole at the manifold, suck as hard as you could on the vaccuum pipe until you had created a big vaccuum, and then get someone to start the engine, would it start or attempt to start?"

I've been searching through my Chilton manual for a diagram. Do you mean to disconnect the vaccuum hose at the fuel pressure regulator and plug the hose. Then place a length of hose on the fuel regulator, and apply a vaccuum?

I will need to get a length of hose from the local auto parts supply. Since the truck is not running, I will have to wait until later today. How do I pick up this thread again?
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August 15 3:47 AM (12 hours and 58 minutes and 9 seconds later)
         
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