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1967 camaro starts fine at first but drags to start after ...


Sent to Car Experts August 19, 2006 3:13 p.m.
1967 camaro starts fine at first but drags to start after getting hot. New 1 aut cables,battery,starter sngle wire alternator,HEI ignition timing ok, connections fine. starter heat shield also because of header heat. 350 bored eng. NEG. GROUND TO BLOCK.

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Pre-1981 Chevrolet camaro 350

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cables,battery,starter,alt.,connedtions timing check etc
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Status: Closed   Value: $9   
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August 19, 2006 3:26 p.m. (12 minutes and 55 seconds later) 		REPLIED Check Mark

Do you have headers?

It sounds like your starter is overheating, either because it needs a heat shield or because it is worn out.

What happens is that the armature inside swells from the heat or wear and drags/rubs inside of the starter causing a dragging/slow crank condition.

Hit 'Reply' (not 'Accept') to respond OK?

Russ



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Russell S Wydra
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Sent August 19, 2006 7:12 p.m. (3 hours and 45 minutes later)
I've already relaced starter three times thinking it had to be starter. I have heat shield already.I also jumped with battery charger boost and it still dragged,which after I tested battery it tested good.
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August 19, 2006 7:36 p.m. (24 minutes and 13 seconds later) 		REPLIED Check Mark

Do you know your compression ratio?

I rebuilt a '68 with a 9 1/2 to 1 and I had to put a high torque racing starter on it....but my starter problem was solved.

Russ



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Sent August 19, 2006 11:30 p.m. (3 hours and 54 minutes later)
I understand that but this engine has been built for three years with out this problem.
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August 20, 2006 8:23 a.m. (8 hours and 52 minutes later) 		REPLIED Check Mark

OK, I have to be honest with you, other than I high torque starter, I am out of suggestions.

You can repost for free and see if another mechanic wants to tackle it.

Sorry, but I gave it my best shot.

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Sent August 22, 2006 1:03 a.m. (1 day and 16 hours later)
OK THANKS FOR TRYING ANYWAY.
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August 22, 2006 1:16 a.m. (12 minutes and 39 seconds later) 		REPLIED Check Mark
There are several kits made through different companies. What it amounts to is connecting the large positive to the smaller terminal where the key signal comes from. This makes the starter work whenever power is applied to the cable the starter turns. Then get a ford starter relay and mount it on the fender or fire wall. Wire the key feed to this relay and run one side to the battery and the otherside of the relay to the starter. You won't have any starting problems after doing this. The kits are in JEGS and other hot rod mags. Please accept my answer if satisfied.

Edited by 32dmadden on August 22 2006 at 1:16am

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Sent August 23, 2006 5:06 p.m. (1 day and 15 hours later)
Basically all that does is energize the relay at srarter when you have relay problem. It dosen't make starter spin any faster.
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August 23, 2006 8:45 p.m. (3 hours and 38 minutes later) 		REPLIED Check Mark
Believe me when I tell you it works. By moving the relay up top you get it out of the heat. Then by jumping the soliniod with the piece of metal plate you aliminate alot of resistance that you have when the soliniod gets hot and expans. I've put more than one of these in performance chevys and they have worked every time. Give it a try. Nothing else has worked for you.

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Sent August 24, 2006 11:06 p.m. (1 day and 2 hours later)
OK
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August 25, 2006 12:29 a.m. (1 hour and 22 minutes later)
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