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I am trying to find out how to remove the Iginition lock system on a 1996 Pontiac Grand am. the key will not turn to start car and steering is locked in place HELP!

 

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1996 Pontiac Grand Am V-6

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June 11 2006 at 7:43 AM (11 minutes and 46 seconds later)
         
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Hello Customer (name blocked for privacy)!thanx for the question.here are the instructions for removing and replacing the ignition lock cylinder.Please click my ACCEPT button if this will be helpful and Bonuses are greatly appreciatedImages available only to Customers.

1992-98 Vehicles

With Key

See Figure 2

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. 2: Exploded view of lock cylinder related components—1992-98 vehicles

CAUTION :

Some models covered by this information may be equipped with a Supplemental Inflatable Restraint (SIR) system, which uses an air bag. Whenever working near any of the SIR components, such as the impact sensors, the air bag module, steering column and instrument panel, disable the SIR, as described below .

DISABLING THE SYSTEM


Turn the steering wheel so that the vehicle's wheels are pointing straight ahead.

Turn the ignition switch to LOCK, remove the key.

Disconnect the negative battery cable.

Remove the AIR BAG fuse from the fuse block.

Remove the steering column filler panel (sound insulator).

Disengage the Connector Position Assurance (CPA) and yellow 2-way connector at the base of the steering column.

For the passenger's side air bag, remove the right sound insulator. Disengage the Connector Position Assurance (CPA) and yellow 2-way connector located behind the right sound insulator.


Fig. 5: Yellow 2-way SIR connector

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Fig. 6: Yellow 2-way connector locations for the SIR system

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Fig. 6: Yellow 2-way connector locations for the SIR system


ENABLING THE SYSTEM

Disconnect the negative battery cable.

Turn the ignition switch to LOCK, then remove the key.

Engage the 2-way connector at the base of the steering column and the Connector Position Assurance (CPA).

Install the steering column filler panel.

If equipped, install the CPA to the passengers yellow 2-way connector located under the right sound insulator. Install the right side sound insulator.

Install the AIR BAG fuse to the fuse block.

Connect the negative battery cable.

Turn the ignition switch to RUN and make sure that the AIR BAG warning lamp flashes seven times and then shuts off. If the warning lamp does not shut off, make sure that the wiring is properly connected. If the light remains on, take the vehicle to a reputable repair facility for service.

  1. Disconnect the negative battery cable.

  2. Remove the AIR BAG fuse.

  3. Remove the left side insulator panel.

  4. Disengage the two yellow 2-way SIR connectors.

  5. Remove the tilt lever, if equipped.

  6. Remove the upper and lower steering column trim covers.

  7. Insert the key in the lock and turn it to the ON position.

  8. Remove the lock cylinder by pushing against the locking button on the back of the bearing/housing assembly, and pulling outward.

To install:

  1. Install he new lock cylinder into the housing. Gently push the lock cylinder into place while rotating counterclockwise.

  2. Install the upper and lower column covers.

  3. Install the tilt lever, if equipped.

  4. Engage the two yellow 2-way SIR connectors.

  5. Install the left side insulator panel.

  6. Install the AIR BAG fuse.

  7. Connect the negative battery cable




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June 11 2006 at 8:36 AM (52 minutes and 50 seconds later)
         
Reply to Michael's Post: Cannot do any of the above because I cannot turn the ignition key in any direction. this is the problem. We need to get the ingition lock cylindar out so that we can replace it.

Our daughter went to the gas sation last night and after she pumped the gas she went to turn the car on and the key would not turn at all in any dierction. We brought her antohter ket to see if that was the problem and no luck with any extra keys. the steering whell is then locked in place and we are going no where. we need to get the igition lock out so that we can replace the part and that is the part that we cannot figure out because everything is locked up.

thanks waiting to hear
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June 11 2006 at 9:19 AM (42 minutes and 46 seconds later)
         
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OK,No problem.Here is how to proceed without a key.

Without Key (Key Lost or Key Code Unavailable)

See Figure 3

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Fig. 3: Drilling location for lock cylinder removal


  1. Disconnect the negative battery cable, and disable the SIR system.

  2. Remove the left side insulator panel.

  3. Remove the steering column filler panel.

  4. Disengage the two yellow 2-way SIR connectors.

  5. Remove the steering wheel.

  6. If equipped, remove the tilt lever.

  7. Remove the upper and lower steering column trim covers.

  8. Disengage the PASSLOCK connector from the lock cylinder.

  9. Disengage the headlamp switch and windshield wiper switch connectors.

  10. Detach the transaxle shift interlock cable from the lock cylinder.

  11. Remove the upper flexible column bolt.

  12. Remove the steering column bracket support bolts.

  13. Remove the steering column from the vehicle, and place it on a suitable work surface.

  14. Using a 9/32 drill bit, drill into the lock cylinder housing as shown in the illustration.

  15. Insert special tool J 41253 into the hole and twist it to remove the retainer spring.

  16. Hold the steering column vertical and tap on the housing assembly to dislodge the lock retainer and clear the metal shavings.

If necessary, use needlenose pliers to remove the retainer from the housing assembly.

  1. Clean all debris and shavings from the housing assembly.

To install:

  1. Install the new lock cylinder onto the steering column.

  2. Install the key in the cylinder and turn it to the ON position.

  3. Align the locking tab with the slot in the housing assembly, and push the cylinder into position.

  4. Place the steering column into the vehicle.

  5. Install the steering column bracket support bolts and tighten them to 20 ft. lbs. (27 Nm).

  6. Install the upper flexible column bolt (pinch bolt) and tighten it to 30 ft. lbs. (41 Nm).

  7. Install the transaxle shift interlock cable.

  8. Connect the headlamp and windshield wiper switch electrical connections.

  9. Engage the PASSLOCK connector.

  10. Install the upper and lower steering column covers.

  11. Install the tilt lever (if equipped).

  12. Install the steering wheel.

  13. Engage the two yellow 2-way SIR electrical connectors.

  14. Install the steering column filler panel.

  15. Install the left side insulator panel.

  16. Install the AIR BAG fuse.

  17. Connect the negative battery cable.

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June 11 2006 at 3:50 PM (6 hours and 31 minutes and 27 seconds later)
         
Reply to Michael's Post: Hi Michael, Thank you for your prompt reply. I will "accept" your answer to drill the lock retainer spring out but I won't have a special tool as indicated so I'll try to use tweezers or hemostats or such. This is ironically the same exact assembly as on our 93 Escort which I did back in '01. That one however I was able to rotate because it was broken where the cylinder transfer ti's rotation to the last coupling to the ignition switch. Thanks again. Dave
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