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i have a 1997 chevy malibu w/ 2.4 4cyl engine..the ...

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i have a 1997 chevy malibu w/ 2.4 4cyl engine..
the trouble started by not starting easy in the mornings, i would have to crank on it, and turn it off, and do this anywhere up to 5 times before it would go ahead and start. i took to a sh p , they replaced the in tank fuel pump..that didnt fix it . drove it for 4 days.after it was started and running for the day ,it would start normal the rest of the day.. one night after it sit all day it when i went to start it,would start and for appox. 2 seconds.had it towed to the same shop, they said the computer said it was a bad brain box, started and fine home ,next morning it about 10 craacking to get started . any ideas or help on this?           thank you, jerry moss

 

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1997 Chevrolet malibu 2.4 4 cyl

Already Tried:
new comp. brain,new fuelpump&filter

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September 20 1:33 AM (5 minutes later)
         
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Hello jerry, when you say it may take up to 5 times to get it started do you continuously try to start the car over and over again, or do you wait long periods of time between attempts?
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September 20 1:40 AM (6 minutes and 55 seconds later)
         
Reply to BOBBY's Post: cranking on it , then stopping for probally about 30sec each time
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September 20 1:47 AM (7 minutes and 34 seconds later)
         
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It sounds like you have a problem with the fuel system pressure bleeding off. The only way to check the problem would be with a fuel pressure gauge. There could be a problem with the new pump that was replaced. There could also be a problem with the fuel injectors or the fuel pressure regulator. Do you have any kind of access to a fuel pressure gauge?
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September 20 1:50 AM (2 minutes and 36 seconds later)
         
Reply to BOBBY's Post: not unless i go purchase one
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September 20 1:53 AM (2 minutes and 53 seconds later)
         
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Okay, try this first before we get to that. When you first go to start your car, when it would usually take a long time to start, put the key in and turn it to the on position without starting it. Leave it there for five seconds and then turn it off. Do this a couple of times and on about the fifth time try and start the car and see if it starts any faster. Let me know what happens.
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September 20 1:56 AM (2 minutes and 48 seconds later)
         
Reply to BOBBY's Post: i tryed this , thinking to pump up the injectors
before trying to start it.
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September 20 1:58 AM (2 minutes and 42 seconds later)
         
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What was the result of trying this?
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September 20 2:03 AM (5 minutes and 5 seconds later)
         
Reply to BOBBY's Post: o ,sorry. got side tracked trying to remember it all.... it did not make any difference pumping it up or not., am wondering if could be connected to the throttle body ? thanks
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September 20 2:07 AM (3 minutes and 59 seconds later)
         
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It does still sound like a fuel problem. Most autoparts stores will loan out these kinds of tools. If you can get a hold of one that would be great. That will help us determine if we have a fuel related problem or something else.
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September 20 2:10 AM (3 minutes and 5 seconds later)
         
Reply to BOBBY's Post: what pressure should itread to be normal?
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September 20 2:12 AM (1 minute and 52 seconds later)
         
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The fuel pressure should be 41-47 psi. The main thing we are looking for besides pressure, is if the system actually hold pressure oncew the engine or key is turned off.
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September 20 2:22 AM (9 minutes and 39 seconds later)
         
Reply to BOBBY's Post: one other thing,
there is a vacume pod connected toa steel line that runs across the front of the engine and the other end is hooked into the top w/ vacume line running to the throttle body.? any way while it is idling , if i dissconnect the vacume line , the idle picks up and runs smoother and a little faster, do you think it could be related ?
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September 20 2:27 AM (4 minutes and 41 seconds later)
         
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I highly doubt it because the engine is just kicking up the idle to make up for the vacuum leak. You can try starting it with this unhooked but I am sure they are not related.
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September 20 2:30 AM (1 minute and 18 seconds later)
         
Reply to BOBBY's Post: i thank you for your time and effort.
        thanks     jerry moss
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September 20 11:10 AM (8 hours and 40 minutes and 1 second later)
         
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Hello Jerry, I am back online so let me know if you can get that fuel pressure checked.
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