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follow up question on my previous one on 1994 camry cranky
Sent to Car Experts October 19 01:48 PM

This is a follow up question on my previous one on 1994 camry cranky.

If as you answered: "Sounds like the starter solenoid is stuck/bad."
Will it cause the starter to remain on even after the key removed? (supposedly the key switch is good).

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October 19 2:14 PM (26 minutes and 6 seconds later)
         
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anything is possible but all a solenoid is, is a flat copper disk with one or two metal things touching it that bring the electricity to the disk which feeds electricity to a little electric motor that turns the gear that is on a cork-screw thread that engages the flywheel. A common problem is that the little gear (abendex) gets stuck in the cork-screw thread that stays engaged to the flywheel. This will sound like the starter is still running when in fact the flywheel is rotating the abendex (little gear).

Rick
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October 19 2:24 PM (10 minutes and 25 seconds later)
         
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If the key is removed and the engine is not running then there is a reason why the solenoid is still getting juice. The Pos+ battery cable is directly in the middle of this solenoid. I guess there would be a way for some juice to get to the copper disk if solenoid is bad. But, i dont know what that would be? Anyone else want to chime in on this one? Sounds like you need a new one anyway. Change it and dont hook-up the remote start for awhile just to see if all is well.

Rick
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October 19 9:00 PM (6 hours and 35 minutes and 29 seconds later)
         
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Low batery voltage can cause a soleniod to weld it's srlf in the conact position if this happens the solenoid is uslaly damaged and the battery goes dead compltly you can see sighns of this when you try to put a fresh battery in and it sparks when hooked up.
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November 4 2:52 PM (15 days and 17 hours later)
         
Response to enginboy's Post: Hi, Enginboy:

I think your answer is very close to the truth.
Except my Battery was very good.

I took out the starter and dissembled it. The solenoid was worn out. The contact was much thinner. It was barely make contact. That was why the new symptom was not starting, the solenoid just clicked.

I tried to push the solenoid to engage position to see if it can stuck there, it couldn't. So the welding explaination was a very good one. Before the solenoid contact went bad completely, it was barely making contact. This could be a very good recipe for temporary welding of the contact. It kept the starter engaged (cranking) even after the key is removed. Because the "welding" was not strong, after 10 or 20 seconds when key is removed, it seperated under the force of restoring spring.

I have replaced the starter for about 2 weeks now and I drove it everyday. The car feels as good as new when starting. No problem at all.

Thank you for your reply. I still have one dollar in my account, I can not find the button to pay it to you. Please let me know how I can get it done.
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November 4 3:04 PM (12 minutes and 2 seconds later)
         
Hi Steve,

Enginboy posted his response as a Free Post, that is why there is no Accept button. If you still want to pay him for his Free Post, then he would have to post again on this question page and make it a normal post, not free.

Regards,
Tropicalmoe

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November 4 3:39 PM (34 minutes and 49 seconds later)
         
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 Steave  i'm glad your problem is solved with just a starter  i like top let people know everything there up against if I can thanks for letting us know how things worked out. and I appreciate your the accept also Thank You Very Much.

                          Regards Marc

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